Introduction: 0:00

• Ron De Jesus, Field Chief Privacy Officer at Transcend, joins the podcast.
• Being the industry’s first Field CPO.
• Previously heading privacy for dating apps Grindr and Tinder and fashion brands Tapestry and Coach.

What is a Field Chief Privacy Officer?: 1:50

• Ron on building thought leadership in the privacy industry.
• Creating dialogue in the community.
• Building trust by speaking at a one-on-one level.
• Trust as table stakes for compliance.
• The criticality of domain knowledge.

Producing a creative video webseries at Transcend: 6:54

• Ron on his video series, “Field Trips.” 
• Interviewing European privacy regulators, politicians, and activists.
• Offering different perspectives on an important issue.
• Implementing guidance in the CPO role.

Experimenting with video content as a freelance privacy consultant: 12:05

• Ron on the unique inspiration for his first hit video series.
• Juxtaposing design and travel with compliance.
• Going viral on LinkedIn.
• Finding a space for social influencers and compliance professionals.
• Combining your message with your passions.

Coming into a role at a company dealing with privacy complaints: 15:50

• Ron on his time at Grindr.
• Doing something altruistic for your community.
• Getting buy-in from your CEO.
• Offering regular training to develop strong privacy behaviors.

Managing privacy-related communications issues: 19:01

• Ron on complete transparency with regulators.
• Taking accountabilities with consumers.

Navigating a career break after alleging wrongful termination: 21:53

• On taking time to chart out your next step.
• Connecting your skills and interests to your career path.

Thinking about new consent frameworks in the privacy industry: 24:40

• On his op-ed about using dating app-style swiping for privacy agreements.
• Generating discussion about how to make privacy better for users.
• Building stronger trust with consumers.
• Developing a strong reputation through transparency.

How did you get your start in privacy?:  27:57

• On wanting to be a doctor.
• Starting off at healthcare consulting firms.
• Working on privacy at Deloitte.
• Moving into privacy and compliance at fashion brands and dating apps. 
• Contributing to the legal function as a non-lawyer.
• The importance of networking events.
• Do privacy professionals need a JD?

What is the future of the CPO role?: 33:56

• Is the CPO role dead?
• Taking on AI governance.
• Balancing innovation with privacy and ethics.

Advice to young people who want to work in privacy: 36:19

• On the many pathways to privacy.
• Reaching out to hiring managers.
• Demonstrating your interest through certifications.

How to find Ron: 39:34

• Following Ron on Instagram at #RondeJesus
• Finding him on LinkedIn.

Rapid-fire questions: 40:01

• Ron’s favorite part of the day-to-day.
• Professional pet peeves.

Book Recommendations: 41:28

• Atlas of AI by Kate Crawford.

What you wish you’d known as a young privacy professional: 42:42

• On trying different things every day.
• Supplementing your career with hobbies.