Introduction: 0:00

• Matt Campobasso, General Counsel at Enfusion, joins the podcast.

An early career as an Illinois prosecutor: 1:36

• Similarities with Presumed Innocent on Apple TV
• The joys and difficulties of being a prosecutor

What inspired Matt to be a prosecutor: 4:32

• Having an analytical personality.
• Clerking and working as a prosecutor in the Chicago suburbs.
• Matt describes his first trial.
• Moving into litigation and becoming a partner.
• Seeing law as a continual practice.
• Sharing advice from a judge.

Transitioning to in-house roles in tech: 16:33

• Leaving his law firm to go in-house.
• Working at TruQua.
• Leaving TruQua to become deputy general counsel at Enfusion.
• Building legal processes from scratch.
• Leading an IPO process.
• Being elevated to general counsel.
• Taking an unusual career path.

Managing work relationships after you become general counsel: 24:15

• Keeping his team happy.
• Offering credit and accepting blame.
• Staying busy with business decisions.
• Empowering his junior lawyers to take charge.

Instilling a business mindset in a legal team: 29:56

• Hiring lawyers with real-world experience.
• Starting from “yes” and working backwards.
• Using the law to add value.
• Balancing the difficult side of legal work.

Hiring lawyers with an owner’s mindset: 37:32

• Finding lawyers who think beyond being reactive.
• Screening candidates who are interested in the work.
• Maintaining strong relationships with his team.

Rapid-fire questions: 43:50

• Matt’s favorite part of the day.
• Matt’s worst job.

Book recommendations: 49:22

• The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
• The Mount of Olives: 11 Declarations to an Extraordinary Life by Michael V. Ivanov

What Matt wishes he knew as a young lawyer: 52:16

• The importance of showing yourself grace.
• Combating fear and imposter syndrome.