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Episode 50

How beating cancer twice helped him become the “Zen” GC: Dan Haley, GC, Guild

Episode summary

Introduction: 0:00

  • Introducing Dan Haley, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Guild, former SVP and GC at Sprinklr, and former Chief Legal and Administrative officer at Athenahealth.
  • Starting your career in politics under former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and Charlie Baker and moving on to partner at McDermott Will and Emery. 
  • Overcoming two bouts with testicular cancer and raising money for global cancer research in a yearly two-week, two-hundred-mile cycling fundraiser.

Balancing high-stress jobs with cancer treatment: 9:21

  • Enduring surgery and radiation treatments while working full time and studying for the bar.
  • Finding that you are at your best when you are training for an athletic competition.
  • Being thankful for learning how to deliberately manage your time.

Building a reputation as a zen lawyer: 12:23

  • Accepting valuable feedback from your CEO about intensity and condescension.
  • Adapting a philosophy that emphasized equanimity. 
  • Receiving compliments about kindness and friendliness in your legal approach.
  • Recognizing the gift of feedback and regularly soliciting it from your manager.

Maintaining a positive attitude and setting a tone within the GC role: 18:05

  • Working with companies that want a GC who possesses a personality that matches their culture.
  • Being chosen for the role at Sprinklr because he was wearing a funny shirt in the interview.
  • Taking on cultural leadership positions at three different companies.
  • Making yourself approachable but not soft as you tackle core legal functions.

Managing CEO transitions in a time of crisis: 23:16

  • Using the innate authority of being a lawyer to instill calm in your staff.
  • Avoid jumps to conclusions and offering worst-case scenarios.
  • Focusing on the things that you know to be true.

Enduring a hostile takeover from Elliott Management at Athenahealth: 27:31

  • Receiving word from the “doomsday investor” that they have purchased your stock.
  • Leading your team through an eighteen-month saga of intense stress and emotion.
  • Projecting an air of normalcy while managing a destructive and highly confidential crisis.

Facilitating the CEO transition at Athenahealth: 32:52

  • Mediating corporate governance, human relationships and human emotions as the decision is made to search for a new CEO.
  • Convincing your investors not to bring in outside counsel to manage the transition process.

Facilitating the CEO transition at Guild: 37:22

  • Staying strong after the CEO and founder suffers a life-changing medical emergency.
  • Understanding that no one in an organization is irreplaceable.
  • Recognizing when a company needs a founder to lead and when it needs an administrator.

Book recommendations: 46:14

  • The Phoenix Project: A Novel About IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business Win by  Gene Kim, Kevin Behr, George Spafford 

What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 50:13  

  • Unlearning lessons from law school and law firms to be an effective in-house lawyer.
  • Never offering worst-case scenarios as advice.
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Host
Tyler Finn
Head of Community & Growth, SpotDraft
Guest
Dan Haley
GC, Guild

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