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Episode 60

Sharing Legal Secrets Onstage with Playwright and ex-Etsy and Vroom GC Sarah Feingold

Episode summary

Introduction: 0:00

  • Introducing Sarah Feingold, playwright of Dirty Legal Secrets: Based on True Startups, media law professor at New York University, board member and startup advisor at Chloe Capital, and former General Counsel at Etsy and Vroom.
  • Why she considers herself a creative first and a legal professional later
  • What got Sarah into law

Becoming Etsy’s first lawyer (and 17th hire): 2:48

  • Reaching out to Etsy, offering guidance on policy.
  • Talking with the founder, then calling back to pitch herself as their lawyer
  • Building a business case for herself
  • Believing Etsy will succeed & taking the leap

Transitioning to General Counsel at Vroom: 6:57

  • Building a large, specialized team for an automotive sales company 
  • Speaking with a recruiter about expanding her career portfolio
  • Taking steps to expand her career by exploring different roles

Writing a play: 9:18

  • Being inspired by the #MeToo movement
  • Creating a platform for lawyers to share their stories 
  • Staging her first performance in 2019, then adapting it to a play during the pandemic

Getting started on her first draft: 13:59

  • Learning to ignore her perfectionist tendencies 
  • Giving herself grace to write, practice, continually change, and improve

Finding actors and producing her own play: 16:52

  • Exploring ways to fund her projects
  • Submitting her script to a competition and winning
  • Working with production companies 

Learning to promote herself after a career in law: 19:54

  • Balancing a career in arts with running a business
  • Getting comfortable with rejection 

Staging Dirty Legal Secrets: 21:37

  • Putting on back-to-back performances 
  • Visiting Dirtylegal.com for tickets and mailing list
  • How she imagines the future of Dirty Legal Secrets

Keeping her creative spirit alive: 25:28

  • Balancing a difficult job with raising a family and writing a play
  • Scheduling time to work on her passion projects

Leaning into a “portfolio” career: 28:20

  • How she found joy in public speaking and teaching 
  • Learning to take risks and making peace with career ambiguity

Favorite parts of her day and pet peeves: 30:13

  • Enjoying her daily route while taking her kid to school
  • Disliking when people say they will do something and don’t

Book recommendations: 31:24

  • Encouraging people to see and read more plays

What she wish she knew as a young lawyer: 33:21

  • Realizing that she didn’t have to do everything herself
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Host
Tyler Finn
Head of Community & Growth, SpotDraft
Guest
Sarah Feingold
Playwright, First Attorney, Etsy

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