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Episode 58

How a lawyer built an AI company with Cecilia Ziniti, founder GC AI

Episode summary

Introduction: 0:00

  • Introducing Cecilia Ziniti, Founder of GC AI, a generative AI interface designed specifically for in-house counsel.
  • Formerly serving as Head of Business Development at Replit, General Counsel at Bloomtech, Anki, and Cruise, and Lead Counsel for Amazon’s Alexa.
  • Launching an AI platform for in-house teams and combating the perception that legal software is largely unusable.

Leading legal at Replit: 2:52

  • Gaining experience with AI by working on a development platform for software engineers. 
  • Recognizing the similarities between lawyers and large language models.
  • Acknowledging the skills required for software engineering and legal work.

Why lawyers should use emojis: 5:40

  • Increasing recall and top of mind awareness with stakeholders 
  • Following the lead of emoji-forward platforms like Notion that are popular with Gen Z.
  • Leaning into the effectiveness of video and bullet points. 

Starting a business after gaining extensive experience working with AI: 13:00

  • Finding that AI makes it easier to start a company.
  • Refusing to let others tell you that you’re “just a lawyer.”
  • Continuing to identify as a lawyer while taking on the CEO title, perspective, and duties.
  • Thinking of every employee in your company as “we,” not “they.”

Considering how GCs should leverage AI: 22:18

  • Recommending that everyone try to cross the AI threshold (comfort in using AI) by asking it to help with personal tasks.
  • Considering guidance on AI from the American Bar Association.
  • Experimenting with AI and finding creative ways to use it in your legal work.
  • Adding a new tool to accompany your hard-earned expertise and skill set.
  • Getting a head start on AI before the technology is perfected.

Hiring legal teams in the age of AI: 39:03

  • Looking for generalists who use AI to absorb knowledge rather than hiring specialists.
  • Referring to highly specialized outside counsel for complex matters but using AI to assist with simpler problems.

Teaching a class on AI at Stanford University: 47:35

  • Taking advantage of the California Bar Association’s technology credit.
  • Valuing user feedback to build a tech product in a rapidly growing industry.

Book Recommendations: 51:52

  • To Sell Is Human: The Surprising Truth About Moving Others by Daniel H. Pink
  • 7 Rules of Power: Surprising--but True--Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career by Jeffrey Pfeffer
  • Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Deborah Liu
  • The Acquired podcast

What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 55:11

  • Would have shared a message of comfort and understanding that with hard work, everything will work out.
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Host
Tyler Finn
Head of Community & Growth, SpotDraft
Guest
Cecilia Ziniti
CEO & Founder, GC AI

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