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Episode 65

Why GCs Need to Understand Geopolitics with Sean West

Episode summary

Introduction: 0:00

  • Sean West, Co-founder at Hence Technologies.
  • Getting involved with international affairs.
  • Looking for ways to make money in politics.
  • Working at Deloitte in D.C. and the Eurasia Group.

Working at Eurasia Group: 3:15

  • Forecasting geopolitics.
  • Making wrong predictions.
  • How predictions are made.
  • How to create control experiments.

Learning to trust your gut: 7:58

  • Apprenticing with experienced forecasters.
  • Looking towards the future.

Why general counsels should care about geopolitics: 10:37

  • Navigating the unstable global political environment.
  • The legal effects of volatility.
  • Charting the growing political responsibilities of general counsels.

How general counsels can get better at handling political risks: 16:01

  • Visiting Sean’s substack, geolegal.substack.com.
  • Balancing geopolitics, law, and technology.
  • Writing an upcoming book.
  • How geopolitics and tech are undermining international law.
  • How technology will change the lawyer role.
  • Emerging tech like robot lawyers in China. 

Do CEOs have to be politicians?: 21:31

  • The CEO role becoming chief geopolitical officer.
  • Whether companies should take political stands.
  • Responding to public backlashes.
  • Doing business with China.
  • Why U.S. companies should be open about it.
  • Working with politicians.
  • When and why companies should get political.

Building Hence Technologies in Rwanda: 31:42

  • Founding a company with a Palantir alum.
  • Selling knowledge.
  • Building technology around geopolitics.
  • Dealing with faulty forecasting tech.

Starting your own business: 25:06

  • Managing the stress of being a founder.
  • Why Rwanda became their base of operations.
  • Building in a place where you can hire the best engineers.
  • Finding talent in the global economy.

Imagining the future of Hence Technologies: 42:02

  • Looking into strategic options.
  • Building products for the rest of his life.

Rapid-fire questions: 43:48

  • Sean’s favorite part of the day.
  • Sean’s professional pet peeves.

Book recommendations: 45:49

  • The Coming Wave: Technology, Power, and the Twenty-first Century's Greatest Dilemma by Michael Bhaskar and Mustafa Suleyman

What Sean wishes he’d known as a young researcher: 48:02

  • Being comfortable in your own skin.
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Host
Tyler Finn
Head of Community & Growth, SpotDraft
Guest
Sean West
Co-Founder, Hence Technologies

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